Is Porn on Military Bases Really a Big Deal?

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In the age of internet porn, I can’t imagine why anyone is in a lather about Playboy and Maxim and Curves being sold in military exchanges.  But they are.

An anti-porn group has been urging Congress and Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel to remove adult materials from military exchanges.  Karen Jowers of Military Times reported,

“Morality in Media contends that the sale of explicit materials in the exchanges contributes to the problem of sexual assault in the military and says the Pentagon isn’t following the letter of a law intended to prohibit the sale of sexually explicit material on Defense Department property.”

Now the Senate has ordered the Pentagon to notify them within 180 days about what steps will be taken to comply with the prohibition.

And I’m thinking, Really?  Are we really going to link the sale of Maxim magazine at the exchange (not at 7-Eleven or the airport or the iPad near you) to the estimated 26,000 sexual assaults in the military?  Are we really saying we are going to get rid of some magazines on bases and posts and thus end the problem? Really?

Like the shoppers in this new report point out, even if these magazines are removed from the exchange system, servicemembers can still easily get the content elsewhere:

I am no fan of pornography. I have written before about how it crushes hope from relationships. And our own Ms. Vicki frequently writes about the way pornography addictions destroy military marriages.

But I’m having trouble getting worked up about the sales of these magazines at exchanges.  Because what is sold in stores seems like nothing compared to what is available at home on the internet.

Taking up time and energy to diddle around with sales of these magazines at the exchanges seems like a strange use of our firepower. It is like trying to end teen pregnancy by banning Bratz dolls.  Or ending violence in schools by tossing out anyone who bites their Poptart into a gun shape.  Or fighting obesity by banning  drinking cups larger than 16 oz.

You can make an argument that these things are linked to the problem you are trying to solve, but the link seems a little weak, doesn’t it?

So why do we do that?  Why do we jump at enforcing these weak links?  Probably because they are small. Probably because they are easy. Probably because jumping on a bandwagon against the sale of Playboy at Lackland AFB is so much easier than actually figuring out how to solve the big problem of sexual predators in the military.

I think officials may be hoping that if they put enough of these small things together they will turn into something big. So the Army and Navy have ordered a clean sweep of all sexual material from the workplace. Every member of the military has been ordered to take more training on sexual assault. The chain of command is on a seek and destroy mission for sexually explicit items (if they weren’t already doing that before.)

I secretly don’t think this is going to work. I secretly think that these changes will only seem petty and officious and arbitrary. These small decrees will only give officials something to focus upon in the workplace.

But we don’t only live in the workplace. The military might be an institution, but it isn’t a total institution. It doesn’t prevent people from being raised in a world where pornography is an industry that is worth billions and billions of dollars.  It doesn’t prevent people from being socialized to objectify women from birth. It doesn’t begin to address the meaning of power in the military.

So go ahead and do the little things that are easy to identify and easy to solve. That is a step, I guess. But don’t kid yourself that this will begin to cure the scourge of sexual assault in the military, because it won’t.

About the Author

Jacey Eckhart
Jacey Eckhart is the former Director of Spouse and Family Programs for Military.com. Since 1996, Eckhart’s take on military families has been featured in her syndicated column, her book The Homefront Club, and her award winning CDs These Boots and I Married a Spartan?? Most recently she has been featured as a military family subject matter expert on NBC Dateline, CBS morning news, CNN, NPR and the New York Times. Eckhart is an Air Force brat, a Navy wife and an Army mom. Find her at JaceyEckhart.net.
  • sabrinacking

    Mix command and control philosophy with testosterone, add adrenaline, shake don’t stir….its the perfect cocktail for sexual assault not only in theatre, but in garrison. The problem is, I am not sure you can have the efficient, effective fighting force you create…without testosterone, adrenaline and a command and control philosophy…and perhaps that is why….militaries throughout time have been gender segregated. Its a very complex sociological quandary that I am convinced can’t be addressed with such trivial tactics as: removing porn from the PX. From a leadership philosophy perspective you are in a crux of the very thing that makes a good soldier….may very well….tap into underlying basic male instincts. This isn’t to negate the need for women to be safe in the work place, and it isn’t to broadly paint a brushstroke across the military…but its a real leadership quandary, and I think trying to understand how you achieve the fighting force you desire….without the rape, pillaging etc that historically has always been created by such a force….especially when you add in women to the force…remains the quandary.

    • sabrinacking

      bwahahahhaa, it edited c.o.c.k.tail….hysterical

      • Amy_Bushatz

        That is funny! I mean “porn” is in the headline so it’s obviously on the lookout! LOL

    • AED

      Culture does play a role, as you have alluded to without coming out and saying it outright. Some view the military as a culture unto itself but propose this is only a temporary occurrence. The base culture of the individual is somewhat lost in the process of acculturation in the military. That being said it may be the dominant culture within the military is guilty of the objectifying of women, and turning a blind eye to sexual assault. However there is change in the making as we speak which might clear away the stigma associated with reporting sexual assault. That is the proposed change in the UCMJ authority commanders hold over rulings in a courts martial. Porn has nothing to do with sexual assault and to think otherwise is naive at best.

    • Javier

      What?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Ashley
      • Radko_Klvich

        I’d be glad if they also got rid of the anti-American Washington Post too! That’s nothing more than Pravda on the Potomac. Except for Charles Krauthammer…we can keep him. Oh yeah, and George Will. BTW, did Art Buchwald die?

    • carin

      I’m a civilan female. I have known several active military & retired military (some my family) in my 57 years. Yes, a quandry … sabrinacking. Unless it’s going to save ton’s of marriage’s (which it’s not) there is just no reason. I think it will bring more problem’s. Not only during a short furlow, but when they go home for 1-2 week’s to do & go as they please! Does the Military think ‘a magazine’ is going to change a Man & how he thinks? Geez. Do they not know that they can get a CD in a box of clothes sent from a dude on the outside, or from a wife or girlfriend? Do they really believe another is going to turn them in for having some nudity? No 1 unit is going to think it’s right. They might as well send them all home to get Lobotomy’s! It’s kinda like food, you don’t starve a man out! I think there are several reprocussion’s just waiting to happen if they do this, none of which seem very positive to me. Just my 2 cent’s.

  • Denise W

    They would reduce the number of sexual assaults if they got rid of all the alcohol, but that’s not going to happen and I wouldn’t support that either. Removing porn is simply applying another bandaid to a festering wound…it covers it up but doesn’t treat the actual problem!

    • Old Chief

      And blaming alcohol is so easy,but doesn’t address the problem nor does it solve anything.

    • DB Cooper

      Denise,
      There were fewer sexual assaults in the military and by military against civilians when soldiers has easy access to alcohol even on the battlefield. The festering wound is american society and its moral decay. The moral decay extends into the military as demonstrated by the large numbers of senior soldiers being relieved for adultery or other inappropriate relationships. BTW don’t just blame the men. Women are not always innocent victoms.

  • Guest

    And I hope they remove all the “money saving “coupons as well. Those “shopaholics” are bankrupting the military.

    • oldbrokendownretiree

      Really? COngress is backrupting the military and sheeple like you are letting them do it.

  • Old Chief

    Geez! This was going on in the sixties.Wasn’t anyone paying attention?Why are those “morality police” allowed to stir the pot one more time?Porn is a choice.Take it or leave it.

  • MsCamo

    My husband and I were discussing this as an offshoot of another topic. On an Airman of the Quarter board, the question was given :Should porn be sold at the base exchange? It just so happens that one of the board members is gay, and he brought up the fact that they do not sell gay porn, only/mostly heterosexual porn for males. So like everything else in the military these days, you can’t exclude one from the other and while AAFES is separate from the military, the DoD pays for their electric bill and the property they operate out of. So it was stated basically you can’t sell something that only appeals to one specific demographic, if you are going to make it available then you must have something comparable for all interests. OR make it unavailable for everyone. Our conclusion as well as the group on the board decided the end result will be it will be taken out, one way or another.

    And I don’t believe porn has anything to do with sexual assault. Just like video games don’t cause people to become murders and neither do offense song lyrics.

    • AED

      Ms Camo,

      To your last point about video games and violence; this is correct. I further agree that this crusade to rid the PX, NEX etc.. of porn or like type magazines is presented under the same premise. That is to say that this will reduce sexual assaults. In all it is naive to expect such results especially when they are based on pseudo science, but as I will not be surprised to see congress weigh in on the matter again based on pseudo science, they seem to be experts in this.

  • L E Smith

    Amendment I
    Freedoms, Petitions, Assembly

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    This pretty much sums up the argument on sales. I may not like what a person reads, but I will defend their right to read it. This issue has been raised in the past and, if I remember correctly it was found to be against the first amendment to ban the sales at military exchanges as it limited the ability of members of the military to purchase the magazines.

    • oldbrokendownretiree

      You are 100% correct, just because I don’t read pron mags does not mean that I have the right to tell someone else they can’t. It is thier choice.

    • Adam

      I totally agree with that as well and I see the same point-of-view as you do. That is why they have a variety of magazine choices. Different options for different interests.

  • Mary V

    Magazines in the exchanges aren’t something that I feel is bad for the military society. In fact, I’ve even sent these magazines to my adopted soldiers. What does seem bad for relationships is the porn shown on porn sites. For one thing, it exploits women, and destroys the effects of the love element that should be in a relationshp. Some couples enjoy this ‘entertainment’ in private. But when a male secludes himself in an area and pulls up the porn site with towel ready and in the nude, he has just taken something special away from his special person. It is then hurtful to his special person….and destroys his marriage or special relationship. In our society, we should be able to read/view what ever we want according to the laws of our country, and what ever we do in private should be our own personal business……as long as no one is hurt by our actions.

  • Chief’s Wif

    I am happy to see them go. If anyone with preteen children visiting the Little Creek Exchange should have noted, these magazines are directly above the children’s publications, such as American Girl. Sell the XXX rated stuff at the package store, where they are not next to toys, pushed to the furthest corner, out of the way, locations of the Exchange.

    • Michael

      The first reasonable comment on this subject. Certainly much more coherent than the Morality in Media group or Congress.

    • Thor48

      Good comment. Makes a lot of sense.

    • Guest

      So all the single soldiers have to be inconvenienced because of your kids? You don’t even serve therefore you logically speaking should not have any say in this matter whatsoever!

      • Just Me

        Moving the porn somewhere other then above the children’s books is “inconveniencing” you? That’s a little pathetic, frankly. I’m sure it will just kill you to walk 20 feet away to pick up your skanky magazines. Personally I don’t have a massive problem with porn, I even use it on occasion to spice things up. However, that is adult content and should NOT be located above or anywhere near the children’s section in ANY store. I don’t know any parents who want their 4 or 5 year old kids seeing half naked women with legs splayed next to their story books. Just common sense.

        • Old Chief

          Well said.Keep it away from little plying eyes.

  • ms6

    Sinners all !!!!!!!! Your souls are h.e.l.l bound. Repent, lay your filthy minds in the gutter and , and,……hey the lady next door left her shade up again…………………………………

    • AED

      ms6…LOL!!!

  • Michael

    Removing the magazines and prohibiting them from the barracks only means that the soldiers/sailors/airmen will buy them elsewhere and smuggle them into the barracks. That then means that there will be a black market on the items. None of this will make a hill of beans toward sexual assaults, except maybe to increase them. MiM and organizations like that want to remove all outlets for sexual release for single men and then stick women in a closed area. This is like sticking 15 female Pomeranians in a small field with 85 male Pit Bulls. Think about it. That is the ratio of females to males in the military and people expect that 85% to behave like angels.

    • Carin

      I’m a civilan female, I agree Michael. Unless it’s going to save ton’s of marriage’s (which it’s not) there is just no reason. I like you think it will bring more problem’s. Not only during a short furlow, but when they go home for 1-2 week’s to do & go as they please! Does the Military think ‘a magazine’ is going to change a Man & how he thinks? Geez. Do they not know that they can get a CD in a box of clothes sent from a dude on the outside, or from a wife or girlfriend? Do they really believe another is going to turn them in for having some nudity? No 1 unit is going to think it’s right. They might as well send them all home to get Lobotomy’s! It’s kinda like food, you don’t starve a man out! I think there are several reprocussion’s just waiting to happen if they do this, none of which seem very positive to me. Just my 2 cent’s.

  • Misanthrophe2

    The inclusion of sexual degenerates serving openly in the military demands a concomitant change in the types of publications sold in PXs/BXs. PLAYBOY has always directed its smut toward a male audience. Equality demands that porn filth directed toward homosexuals, those who engage in bestiality, and child sexual exploitation be made available at military exhanges. In all fairness NAMBA publications must also be made available. As Obama stated in his 2nd Inagural address, full equality must be given to the Gay community. We are a sick country.

    • JayMitsuru

      I’m pretty sure beastiality (is ‘BESTiality’ the right spelling? That’s odd.) and child sex exploitation are illegal. So they wouldn’t show up in store on or off base for that reason. I understand you don’t care for the current administration, but flying off the handle like that does nothing but massage your ow ego and detracts from the overall discourse.
      That said, I see your point (and the point that’s been made elsewhere): if we’re accepting the existance of male heterosexual themes in X-rated magazines, where are the other officially sactioned preference-groups? I have a feeling that it’s less a matter of AAFES inequality and more a matter of demand. I’ve been in PXs with next to nothing on the shelf for Nintendo systems, and I never once thought it was part of a conspiracy against Nintendo. I’m deployed and the PX has probably every gun magazine AAFES carries, but not a copy of Popular Mechanics in sight.

  • jay

    We can be sure Obama does not know NAMBLA pubs are not sold on post. We he learns that, he will down load a brick. And then tell his slave Hagel to have these filth magazines put in PX/BXs, for his people.

  • Douglas M. Waggoner

    It’s definitely not a big deal. The issue is a distraction. A distraction we can’t afford at the moment.

  • Lee

    This wasn’t a problem in the 60s, so why is it a problem now? But I do remember one incident in Vietnam, when one guy got hold of a porno movie, and was showing it in one of the hootches. All of a sudden from the back of the room came a cry, “That’s my wife up there.”. We all laughed, but he was serious, and borrowed the tape to go to the CO to ask for emergency leave. He was back in a week’s time with his divorce decree uncontested by his wife. SEMPER FI

  • oldbrokendownretiree

    M2; I agree, we are a sick country; that is all.

  • fred archuleta
  • Thor

    I remember in Great Lakes, a Battalion Commander was upset that “his” grass in the quadrangle, in the midst of multi-storied barracks, was getting worn into trails by personnel walking a path corner to corner to get to other locations. So, he made a rule: Keep off the quadrangle at all times. No off duty time spent playing football, hanging out, etc. So we did as any sailor did, who was assigned that station of duty; we went off the base to drink and party with ill reputed members of the other sex (OOPs some might have done so with the same sex… sorry :))……. So, given the ban of this “porn” as you might call it would be easily thwarted by members going likewise off base/post, to cohort with others who would profit from their sexual interests. Perhaps this will be an eye-opening endeavor for more of the youthful service members: so that they will engage in a more “inclusive” crowd of equally interested “citizens”! LOL! In other words.. ban porn so that the sailors can go find the off base sex clubs!

    • oldbrokendownretiree

      What studies? If your going to site facts, give a reference

  • ken carr

    Studies show a connection between porn and assaults. Taking porn out of the BX is symbolic in some ways, but it does help send the right message…. women are persons, not objects to be abused.

    • Jim

      Ken, studies have shown a connection between breathing and sexual assault as well, but I don’t recommend that we stop breathing. We have a guarantee of separation of church and state in our constitution, but attempting to ban God and prayer from our military is about the most foolish mistake made in centuries. We are taught from young age that you don’t strike or abuse women. It is taught in church in every denomination as we are growing up, and we see arrests and trials on television almost daily showing those who ignored it. This ban is like picking up a straw from a field and saying it is clear now.

      • AED

        Ken,

        Can you sight or provide the source of this study you refer to in your post?

  • fred archuleta
  • George

    Okay then! Lest stop the Burger Kings, and Pizza Huts, and especially Cinnabon, and other fast food restaurants on the installations as well. Those only contribute to the skyrocketing obesity rate in the country (and on military installations). Gosh knows we dont want the public blaming the military and (AAFES) for that as well.

    • Chief’s wif

      Can you take a hamburger, pizza, and cinnabon aboard ship? Do you REALLLY compare your wife to this type of food? If this stuff really turns you on–you have bigger problems.

  • Chief’s Wif

    The thing that concerns me most, and should concern the parents of their children, is that the publications are generally located next to the toy department and in the case of Little Creek Exchange, the XXX publications are located directly above the preteen publication ie. American Girl. To make this situation even more threatening, the magazine rack is located in the further most secluded portion of the building. These XXX publications should be taken out of the Exchanges and placed in the package stores where proper ID and behavior can be monitored.

    • charles’

      Behavior can be monitored? What does that mean. If a person is reaching into his pocket while browsing through a magazine does not mean they are playing pocket pool. There is no reason to get excited about this. The Senate should be concentrating on items of GREAT concern to this country and not focusing on what is being sold at the exchange.

      • Chief’s wif

        Charles, the behavior I am referring to is the behavior of an opportunistic pedephile. If someone can’t control themselves long enough to be in the privacy of their own person, I guess this would also be a problem, don’t you think?

  • Bob

    You will always have sexual assaults as long as there are male and females together, it will also weaken the ability for men to do their best in combat, most women will be a drag on the fighting men, Alcohol is a big contributor to sexual assaults along with assaults of all kinds. My personal feelings is to legalize pot for use in off duty times, it will silence people where alcohol arouses them, anti depressants will be gone for the pot will also help with depression and people with forming PTSD will start to improve. I am not saying to go all out, I am saying moderation. I have never been to a bar where there is someone smoking pot thats in a fight, in fact, its just the opposite, they are at ease.

    • Unknown

      Pot is a great idea. That way when we’re all feeling comatose we can just be like “whatever man” and hand our weapons over to our enemies. *Rolls eyes

      I’m sorry but my job in the mil requires my wits to be about me. Perhaps you ought to find a new career.

    • Old Chief

      You must be inhaling some pretty potent stuff to come up with this hairbrain idea of yours,Bob.

  • TIM

    DUM,DUMM…GET THE SEX OFF THE TV.BUT SEX SELLS. HOW DUM ARE YOU PEOPLE . START GETTING BETTER PEOPLE IN THE SERVICE.GET A LIFE OR LEARN HOW TO HAVE ONE.THIS IS THE BIGGEST CRY BABIES,

    • Chief’s wif

      Here, here.

  • IronV

    I am growing increasingly irritated at Christians trying to cram their twisted definitions of morality down other peoples’ throats. Tell “Morality in Media” to go straight to hell and mind their own damn business…

  • indianmedicine

    As the Interview surfaced, “Foolish”, with all the real problems with Job Loss,reduced Working Hours – and you are making all this hyperbole over Magazine’s?…………………………………………………………………………………
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    Mrs. Crabetz, you have too much time on your hands; and are in need of Therapy !………………………………..
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  • James_G

    I would have to say NO – sexual assault isn’t caused by alcohol, any more then it is caused by porn – it IS caused by the failure of American society to any longer instill in it’s youth respect for others. Women are seen more as an object for use now in and among this hip hop generation then was ever the case 100 years ago. Attacks on women are growing because attacks on others is growing, the is little respect for authority, and in a society which has thrown away it’s moral compass, and allowed every form of perversion imaginable to be declared acceptable by the government, increased attacks on women is just one of the many logical outcomes in a land where is person is taught that they can do what is right in their own eyes…

    • Old Chief

      James, You are spot on with your comments. Too many parents are abdicating their responsibility of raising their children properly.And taking God and the golden rule out of the picture isn’t helping either.

  • Shannon
  • Jason

    I cannot believe this absurd topic is even being heard. Sexual assaults are not on the rise do to more members committing the act, they are on the rise due to more of the acts being discovered. These magazines are not ruining marriages, either. There was obviously something wrong in the marriage that caused the member to become a “porn addict”. Any psychologist will tell you that sex is a pillar of marriage, so something is not being provided at home. Also, there is a certain type of person that thinks they can commit sexual assault, some without care of the victims sexual orientation. Maxim, FHM, and even Playboy are not going to enhance or adequately supply a predators need to get what they want. This sounds like the witch hunt of a scorned woman.

  • voodkokk

    If we are not worried about the gays then why are we worried about the porn. They have had Playboy and Playgirl as long as I can remember. It is none of anyone’s business as long as they keep it out of the workplace.

  • DJT
  • Djt

    I’m not to happy at most of the responses. Being a victim of molestation and rape….the perpetrators were both hooked on porn. Porn degrades the value of women, destoy marriages and molest children. People who are hooked on porn want more perverted and degrading images of women. This addiction is a sickness just like drugs and alcohol. My ex husband was hooked on porn, molested his daughters and exposed his son to porn. It took years of counseling and the healing power of Jesus to get through this. Get rid of the porn and start respecting women and protecting them like men are suppose to do!

  • John D

    I love these “we’ll do the thinking” morality groups. they have no problem with drinking and smoking, and of course killing people but the only “porn” sold on military bases id Playboy and Penthouse!! Unless you count Maxim and tattoo mags like in Saudi Arabia!! Outside agendas and these do gooders make me sick. Are you stopping the cable networks adult channels on base too?? First Amendment?? Supreme Court?? Go read you constitution along with your corrupted bible!!

  • Ashley
  • Gawd_help_us
  • DJT

    I’m not to happy at most of the responses. Being a victim of molestation and rape….the perpetrators were both hooked on porn. Porn degrades the value of women, destoy marriages and molest children. People who are hooked on porn want more perverted and degrading images of women. This addiction is a sickness just like drugs and alcohol. My ex husband was hooked on porn, molested his daughters and exposed his son to porn. It took years of counseling and the healing power of Jesus to get through this. Get rid of the porn and start respecting women and protecting them like men are suppose to do!

    • Unknown

      I like to look at the female figure. Does that make me a bad person? I have a girlfriend, a daughter, two sisters, about ten nieces (sad that my sisters are overpopulating I know), and a mother. I wouldn’t rape another human being. I’m sorry that happened to you, but you can’t assume that porn is the cause – or a sign of a rapist. No offense but please continue to seek counseling.

    • Old Chief

      That is only your opinion and has no factual value.Don’t stop counseling. It’s the best place to vent.And if you have an open mind, you may even learn something.

  • Ashley
  • John

    As far as I can remember, it’s not porn, just T&A+. I see no harm in it. The problem, in my opinion, is that those who sexually attack others are not punished effectively.

  • Eric

    There are quite a few reasons porn is huge in the military… first reason is probably the huge spouse at home; second are the uglies that join the military and pass it out to everybody; third is the probability some tramp will complain after pulling her 10th train.

    • Old Chief

      Go wash your mouth with soap.You’re pathetic.

  • Eric
  • Chaps

    As a Navy Chaplain I can’t endorse porn of any type. No doubt removing porn from the exchanges will in and of itself not stop sexual assaults and I have no research to suggest what impact it would make on sexual assaults. Yet I can’t find any redeeming value of porn. To promote a product that has no moral value, is offense, and encourages a domination over others does not seem to be consistent with military goals. In the pass one of the reason it was allowed to stay in PXs was that it was consider unfair to the publisher, that the rights of “Playboy” was violated. Again removing porn from the PX will not in and of itself stop assaults, the problem is in people thinking they are “gods” to do with others as they please but isn’t that the fantasy porn promotes? I just don’t see the porn editors asking for God’s will to be done.

  • MadRetiredMarine

    I don’t even know why you all waste your time discussing this. Our whole darn country has become a freaking joke, one that isn’t funny. Ban this, ban that, because of this, because of that……all the while we keep pushing tobacco products and alcohol. This is about money folks, plain and simple. And morality, but strangely so, because the folks that are screaming foul on the skin mags couldn’t care less about the homosexuals kissing, go figure that one out. For those that say porn and skin mags can be linked to sexual assault….I say sure, lets say you are right, not that I believe you are, and so is smoking to cancer without a doubt, but where is the ban for that? We live in a society today composed of ignorant rich and ignorant poor alike, and neither one is capable of taking care of themselves, so we MUST rely on the government to do it, that is what we excel at as a nation. You got what you asked for, you cast your votes, now live with the mess you’ve made out of it, fools!

  • fsfedfs

    Unknown is right on the money. We can’t have people running around having hippie jam sessions when haji is shooting at us. This whole thing is stupid. You bring it on yourself by joining the military, and take away the maxim and porn it is going to increase. It’s cool though because the women they are going to allow in the combat arms units are going to become cum-dumpsters.

  • Chief’s Wif

    Wrong! I did serve. Ask any wife that joins with her husband. When a military member is married, my sweet, arrogant, ignorant, little poly wig, it is a joint enlistment.

    • KBelle

      Oh..so…your name is on HIS paycheck? When/where did you get deployed? Did you sign his enlistment/reenlistment papers, too? You show up for squadron PT every morning, right? Go to Commander’s Call meetings?

      NO. Wives do NOT serve. We are married to a man who is in the military. This does NOT make us special. We do NOT share his rank/job/ title. We are wives. Period. If you want the glory/title/rank that comes with serving…go sign up yourself. Ya know..where YOU actually sign on a dotted line, show up at bootcamp and get deployed. Otherwise..shut up and just be the best wife you can be.

      • Leslie

        LOVE!

    • Guest

      Is it lonely up there on your high horse? Do you have to live vicariously through your husband and announce you are a “Chief’s Wife?” And as for a joint enlistment, when did you last deploy? When did you last show up for a command PT? I’m curious as to how his responsibilities to the military are also yours.

    • I.S.

      Lmaaaaaaao, entitled dependa. You only serve dinner. That is IT. Wanna serve? Join the military.

    • SFC H. Retired Army

      HAHAHAHAHA You served? Let’s see your DD-214. How much time did you spend deployed or in theater. Sleeping in the cold and the rain. Sweating your ba**s off in the heat. You didnt server. You set on your A$$, watching tv, eating bon bons. And trust me, if your husband is a Chief and he heard you saying this, he would set you straight as well. ATTN: Spouse’s, both male and female. You did not earn the rank, you do not wear the rank, you are not entitled to anything that goes with the rank.

    • Notmyhusbandsrank
    • Just Me

      ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…….

      oh……sorry……ok………

  • Old Chief

    Jay,crawl back under that rock from where you were born.Your comments are stupid. And have respect for our president.

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  • Chris Blackwell

    Gee PlayBoy, does that bring back memories. In Vietnam we Marines built our own mess hall out of 105 MM Ammo cases, much more fun that the normal official mess hall and the entrance was covered with Play Boy centerfolds. Of course those nudes were more artistically displayed than what is put out by Play Boy today. Unfortunately some spoilsport ordered a proper mess hall to be built and we lost the friendliest looking mess hall ever. Meanwhile the proper and official mess hall had an endless problem with backed up drains and was probably a lot more dangerous to our health.

  • Brian

    I’m just surprised people still buy those magazines, with all the FREE porn floating around the internet.

  • Lust

    I am a married woman with two children 6 and 4. Porn addiction destroyed my marriage of 8 years, my children has lost an opportunity that will never be given to them again… a change at a real family. The ease of access is not a deterrent, it’s and invitation to lust at other naked bodies that I will never be able to emulate!!!!!

  • Don

    Issue all the ones with big breast dildos and all the ones without breast, pocket pussys. Knowing the intelect of what seems to be the average American, it might work. If it doesn’t, blame the WEB.

  • Dick Lancaster

    I don’t believe there are 26,000 sexual assaults. There may be 1000 sexual assaults and 25000 regretful, hungover women, but even 1000 sexual assaults is too many. The solution? Get rid of the women.

  • Hank Vandenburgh

    Playboy isn’t porn either. The CYA philosophy has gone too far here, When I was in officers and enlisted could date. I think much of the “sexual assault” that’s cited in the military now is probably towel snapping in the showers. This nonsense is pretty much some tight-buns’s way of trying to get promoted.

  • Paul

    What I object to is our Senators and Representatives going about grandstanding on how this is so important to them, and they’ll make the military live to a different standard than civilians (’cause they have the power to decide what goes in the PX) because they are so morally upright—Yeah, right. How about if Congress stopped reading porn and got to work on a budget that represented what’s in the best interest of the American People instead of getting distracted by this issue?? But please, Congress, work together to make this country work! Forget Playboy in the PX. That’s a non-issue.

  • ron

    I looked at playboy in the army, never made me want to rape someone.

  • ron

    Had it not bran for penthouse, I might have never known what re and separation codes were, and how you could be screwed over with a honorable discharge, published in the late 70’s.

    • ron

      sorry for the typo,

  • afrescutech

    Its the moral decline of society being the root cause here. The more Christianity is pushed out of schools, military and the country as a whole, the more you will have immoral acts and violence. Where is the accountability for ones sins if there is no belief in Gods Laws.

  • JJ Me

    Instead of banning porn and alcohol, which is in some eyes harmful to society, they should ban the killing and mutilations of people. That would really cut down on all violence.

    Lets be real.

  • sandeman

    Contrary to the present administration:Not all of the armed forces is GAY! Just a NAVY VET.

  • Dependent

    I have to ask, why is it necessary to personally attack individuals that share their opinions? Our military is supposed to be the best of the best-all branches. The posts that appear here indicate a different level of individual. Why is it “assumed” that all sexual assaults are on women? Why is “assumed” that only men need a method of release? Why is it “assumed” that “something at home is not being provided”? Why is it assumed that everyone that believes in morality is Christian? Share these comments with your mother, wife, aunt, sister, or daughter and then ask how they feel about it. Then reflect on your comments to figure out how their opinions fall short of yours. I’m not trying to sound superior — I just want you to get a fair assessment of how women feel about your comments. Not the porn itself but YOUR comments.

    • Toodandy

      Good for you. Blaming a porn publication for a sexual assualt is kinda like blaming a shooting on the gun.

      • Dependent

        You avoided the point poorly. Thank you for taking the time to put your slant onmy comment, however.

  • Derwurst

    While I was stationed at NAS Millington Tn in 1978 the base commanders wife had all of the men’s magazines removed from the exchange. The sailors solution was to go off base and purchase their men’s magazines and bring them back on base. The exchange lost the magazine sales and the local merchants thanked them fro the additional business. Later while sailing over in the Med at every port the locals had magazine stands with an amazing selection of Porn. In Italy there were porn magazine stands on almost every street corner that sold stuff to the sailors for big bucks. At the Spanish ports our carrier stopped at had a better class of porn in my opionion

  • Dependent

    Is there a difference between sex and making love?

  • Radko_Klvich

    Urban legend…it keeps floating around in every theater. It was “supposed” to have happened in Desert Storm, then Iraq. Now I’m waiting for the Afghan version. Same tune, different players. Sorry bud, that’s a crock of Shi.i.te. LOL

  • Radko_Klvich

    They didn’t have any such porn in Madison/Adams/Hamilton’s time, just some ribald verses…pretty tame for our times. They couldn’t imagine a woman with her hair uncovered, let alone seeing the pizza delivery boy giving her the pepperoni special.

  • Radko_Klvich

    I must admit, there’s a lot of love and admiration in those smut mags. I can see, feel it…hellll, I can almost smell it. I’ve even seen babes in Camo on those pages…and it makes the soldier in me hard as a brick. I’ll even imagine YOU MsCamo; I can smell your OD green greasepaint and LCS perfume right now! I’m telling you, I can control myself but I don’t know about all these other w.an.kers. And as for the gay magazines, I can’t wait to see the General’s wife’s face when she sees some big gay bear biker banging the bunghole of some twink. Now that’ll be love San Francisco style. You know what I mean? Oh yes, the freedom of the press…this is what it was all about my patriots.

  • 0369/0326/8654

    A way guaranteed to rid sexual assaults in the US military, DISBAND THE MILITARY. We don’t need one in this era of world peace, terrorism does not exist, only worldwide workplace violence. Surely all we need to expand are the police powers of the State.

  • Bob

    I would say that porn adds to the sexual assault problem, and although the stuff sold in the PX might only be a very small part, any goverment organization should avoid adding to such problems. My only complaint is that there are probably bigger fish to fry. If the small things like this slow down the big things, then this is a problem.

  • Greg

    I guess I haven’t bought a Maxim in a long time. Never considered Maxim a porn mag. Instead of trying to ban stuff why don’t they hold the Marines responsible for their actions? I had a friend who was raped in a barracks room but the guys responsible flew out the next morning for Okinawa and I guess that was just too hard for the Corps to track them down so they got away with it. Took a couple years before my friend was back to her normal self.

  • Becky Harris

    There are many factors involved in sexual harassment situations: social, personal, emotional, environmental, physical. There are also a multitude of environmental influences that could be influencing the perpetrator as well as the victim before an incident occurs. Each case seems to be a unique blend of all of these factors. If pornography in any of its forms is known to be one of the factors influencing a perpetrators decision to sexually harass someone it would make sense to limit access to it on the very premises we are trying to discourage the behavior. It is a small step but it sends the message this is not the place (a military instillation) to promote material that could be leading to incidents of sexual harassment. Can they access it somewhere else? Of course, and probably quicker and easier, but it would be someplace the workplace does not have oversight.

    • Becky Harris

      Part 2….The next question is why if the military is so adamant about health and fitness do they provide such easy access to food that contradicts that message i.e. Burger King. So if you are going to remove Playboy from the BX, can “you” please replace Burger King with something healthier? (I know there are healthy choices at BK but who goes there for that?) Then again it is all about choices. I choose not to go to BK, I choose not to buy pornography as my reading material from the BX, maybe the answer is to teach those who want to learn to make healthy choices.

  • Lacie

    I would love to see those magazines out of at least the checkout lanes. MCAS Miramar has Maxim in every checkout lane and my impressionable preschool daughters see the half naked women posing provocatively every time we need to buy milk. That is maddening.

  • Marc

    LOOK, A SQUIRREL!

    This is more disinformation to confuse the issue. We need to get back to personal responsibility; every action/reaction has consequences, if you do something dumb/wrong you will be held accountable.

    We speak about equality, but don’t hold everyone to the same standard; it’s always special consideration for this, exempt from that – there is always an excuse.